Will Group Buying, Deal Sites Stay Hot?


I have participated in group buying or deal sites as both a consumer and a merchant. Here's my experience and observations from both perspective.



Consumer

Have you been subscribing to a bunch of deal sites? Probably you have unsubscribed from some of those, as it started to look like familiar, boring marketing / advertising messages bombarded during the pre-group buying era.

Bought some of the deals but never / forgotten to redeem it, sounds familiar? You then slowly realize that those were impulse buying, unnecessary spending - buying things that you don't really need it.

Redeemed some and disappointed by the product or service? One of the reasons, the merchant couldn't cope with the sudden surge of customers.

The merchant might not be aware of the capping (maximum number of orders allowed). It is not the priority of deal sites as their objective is to sell as many possible and earn more commissions!

Merchant

It's touted that group buying is a saviour to small to medium businesses. It supposed to be a viable and "affordable" channel for them to advertise and market their business.

Well, not really (with some exceptions of course).

You need to offer steep discount in order to feature in deal sites. And in most cases, it's hurting the merchants' baseline as they might be offering deals on cost price or even making losses. "Marketing cost" as group buying operators will tell you.

For those uninitiated, local deal sites take an average of 30% commission. For example, if you are buying the deal at RM 10, RM 7 goes to the merchant and RM 3 goes to the deal site.

With so many impulse buying, and many of them bargain hunters, how many customers does merchant expect them to come back? Near to zero repeat customers is not marketing cost.

Group buying operators only care about acquiring new members, sell as many as they can. Whether you get quality, repeating customers is not their business.

Alright, those new customers you acquire stands little chance to become your loyal fans. They might not even like your offerings because they are just not in the right target group you hope for. To make things worse, they share their "bad experience" because it's not the right product / service for them. It might even hurt your brand for all your "marketing cost".

Conclusion

Don't get me wrong, it's not all doom and gloom about group buying, and there have been some successful deals. It's just people (consumer and merchant) started to realize it's not always the best deal for them.

Furthermore, many deal sites including Groupon have not made profit yet. This is because they have invested substantially in acquiring especially the members and merchants, as well as international expansion.

Many players are looking at this long term, but can they survive until that point? Perhaps only those strongest will stay, staying as hot is another matter.

Image credit: http://startagroupbuy.com/features/overview/



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It depends on the contract policies of the certain group buying site. The merchant will see to it that the deal will greatly benefit them and they will meet halfway, or else it'll not flourish. The group buying campaign is, after all an effective campaign, as long as both ends will meet. :)
Malaysia latest group buying websites available~ http://www.jvbuyer.com.my ~
Yup that is why www.hotvoucher.com.my came out as a different vouchers provider!
Consumer
1. you dun want to loose money when you paid the full amount of the deals and end up forgetten/never redeem.
At hotvoucher.com.my, you dun need to pay the full amount, just pay some advance, or spend RM1 or RM2 to book the deals, then just go there and pay the merchant only after you finish your meal.
2. We sell food and beverage vouchers ONLY, you need to eat after all, not selling Spa or Massage, or any other deals vouchers. so you wont spend more on other discounted but unnecessary things here.
3.Convenient, using SMS voucher, no print out, impossible to forgot to bring the vouchers along, unless you forgot to bring your phone out, environmental friendly.

Merchant
1.Th advertising fees are estreamly low (when we say low, we mean it!) to make sure the merchant can survive and keep on doing promotion to our customers, at the same time they can keep their margin.
I recently found a new website where it is really nice to look and navigate at all the deals in town

Try this out: www.monkeywee.com
ah, it's been a long time since i visited your blog! nice article here.

i have bought lots of groupons (it's become a noun for me) from mostly Groupon, Everyday.com.my and Dealmates. So far I have not been disappointed. Saved me quite a bit of money, especially when I bring my big family out for dinner once a month.

but i have been finding Groupon (the company) more and more unattractive so much so that I have unsubscribed to their email blast. Why?
1. because they keep sending mail almost twice a day, making it almost like spam
2. their deals are becoming more expensive and on the premium end that I don't feel it's cheap anymore. Perhaps it's just me, but i love food deals and not spa or travel and the food deals are not that great (mostly in the range of RM15 and above which is not a big deal to me - pun not intended).

I have since moved to Everyday.com.my and found that apart from very good deals (I heard they only charge merchants 25%) they even give 3% affiliate rebates for introducing a deal (not just a member like Groupon. and Groupon's RM2 token only last for a while and cannot be used more than once per deal).

I find that there is just too many of these deals site and a customer can only subscribe to so many. I only have 2 now and that is more than enough for me.

In the long run, I feel it's going to be the smaller players who is going to suffer because people are just sick of so-called deals sites and stick to trusted ones.
1 reply · active 708 weeks ago
Welcome back! Nice sharing you have there.

No wonder Everyday is speculated to be the no.1 group buying site in Malaysia in terms of revenue, in front of Groupon and MyDeal.

Good observation on Groupon too, their deals are becoming more "premium".
Good day !

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Go to visit this new site www.smovdeals.com founded in Malaysia, it unique and different from other deal sites. It offers free service to consumers and merchants. It allow sign up consumers to choice the deals based on categories and location as their choices, no spam email sent for every deal content posted, just login to see the deals contents organised in nice carousels as chosen deals based on location and categories.

Sharing is caring where it allow consumers to share the deals with his/her friend list within smovdeals community.

For merchant who looking for free service, this is the site you can post your deals/promotions by targeting the locations and deal categories. Thanks to the matching engine, it will match the consumers and merchants prefered choice of the deals based on locations and categories.

Sign up at www.smovdeals.com to find out more features for consumers and merchants.
never buy from mydeal as the deal doesnt exist.
it is like a scammer deal which customer paid on the spot but cant even use it .
require customer to call in the business but the problem are the outlet never open/operate business at all!!!

mydeal agree to make refund,but after 6weeks never see the refund until today !!

so do u think this is a good customer service to customer!!!

never fall on it even the bargain is good unless u have a lots of money to be loss!!
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Moneymoney · 714 weeks ago

Once I dint get the voucher at all!! but after sending 2 emails, the customer service guys called me help to fix the problem...
Sad to hear that...

Guess they are not careful with the merchants, and they are not well known with customer service anyway.
Group buying will always be around because this is a form of marketing and advertising exercise. Advertising has always been a constant practice of every companies if they want to stay afloat, expand and have a healthy cash and operation flow. When merchants joined group buying platform, they actually could reduce their advertising and marketing budget by a big margin because what group buying platform provided them is new customers and brand AWARENESS. Aren't these some of the objective of other medium of advertisement?

Customer conversion from these e-voucher redemptions is another debatable topic. Maybe customers do not return immediately BUT they have this brand/service/merchant embedded in their mind. They already have an idea of tihs place, they already dream about having their next experience one day when budget/occasion/situation needed them too. This is the same concept of selling luxury branded goods. Make them dream, and one day when they are ready, they will come definitely. Group buying website never committed on INSTANT customer retention.

Therefore based on this 2 cents will I believe Group Buying will stay.
1 reply · active 716 weeks ago
Great comment Gtreg, I agree with you, it will stay, but whether it will stay as hot is debatable.

Note that I am writing this piece more from a perspective from consumer and merchant.
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